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Al assad's father, had always been a protagonist against israel and against the united states in the middle east. it has been the number one ally of iran in the arab world. the most important ally of russia in the middle east. and an exporter of oil to china and the number one purchaser of arms from russia. so syria has been in a league by itself. as also the first arab country to try to build an atomic weapon and has the largest cachet of chemical weapons in the world besides the united states and russia, the largest cachet of chemical weapons. >> thinking about that and the use of these weap...

A nuclear power. they are. i mean, they've detonated an atomic weapon and a couple times now and so, you know, the barn door is open on that one. >> and they've reopened one of their nuclear facilities and peter king was talking about this just this morning. he went so far to say the united states has the right to take preemptive action if we think north korea is going to attack us. take a look. >> i don't want to be putting anything out there other than to say i don't think we necessarily have to wait until we're attacked. if we have good reason to believe there's going to be an athank, i thi...

>> and, finally, chairman royce, the iran sanctions bill, do you think that that will get through congress? >> i do think so. i think that the members of the house and the senate on both sides of the aisle certainly are very, very concerned about the attempts to miniaturize a weapon, the attempts to develop a three stage icbm in iran, and at the same time the fact that the centrifuges, you know, continue to spin, and so in light of that, we have seen times in our history when sanctions really worked effectively. one of them was the bipartisan work done on south africa under apartheid, which no...

Torture was reprehensible, not to be used, but then i also said but suppose an extraordinary circumstance arises. you know that some horrible, horrible, horrible is about to happen. the other example people sometimes use is the presence of an atomic weapon which is about to be detonated. somebody knows where it is. there's still time to disarm it. what do you do in that circumstance? i think that moral dilemma is not easy to resolve, but i can see how under the pressure of circumstances and given the possible consequences one might say, well, let's use force. in other words, let's inflict pain...

No not at all. that bomb was 67 years ago. jenna: one of the nuclear experts that the government relies upon, according to the "associated press" says listen this diagram is just kind of thinking about things, it's not really ao blueprint for what is to come. at least that is his take. what do you think about that. >> it's not a blueprint after nuclear weapon, but nobody should have any illusions that the blueprints aren't out there. when gaffe gave up his nuclear program we got documents with chinese markings because china gave its plans for nuclear bombs to pakistan. jenna: iran has been cle...