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People in charge of that clock, how it looks, have moved it 30 seconds closer to midnight this week. what's the significance of this, and the bulletin that they're trying to put out there. this has obviously been something since the 1950s that we've covered. >> yeah, i think it's the closest to midnight it's been since 1953, if i read the background correctly. why would that be? partly because of nuclear proliferation. partly because there are lunatics like kim jong un in north korea who now have atomic weapons. but also because i think in the judgment of the scientists and the people connecte...

To a third class country with atomic weapons. >> i have to wrap. we'll push the pause button and talk again. thank you for talking with me this morning. >> next, we'll switch gears a bit. we're talking about hatch-a-mals. kids are clambering for this. we'll talk about it coming up next. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job,

>> that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president. >> no puppet. no puppet. you're the puppet. >> malcolm, your take on that moment. >> well, donald trump was very confused about what he was saying. he was going from end to end on various subjects and bringing around to whether vladimir putin liked him or not. and the escalation of russia, you know, building 1800 more atomic weapons and doing their weapons upgrade didn't seem to have anything to do with what he was talking about. vladimir putin does view donald trump as a puppet. there's a lot of evidence and more evidence coming out da...

Civilians are seen by humanitarian law as offlimits and need to be protected by both sides. isis is not demonstrating that kair care for civilians. in fact, they leverage the civilians to their advantage and use them in many cases as human shields. >> i know. and it's tough. when the u.s. talks about changing its strategy when it comes to casualties on the ground, what does that conversation sound like? >> well, two things. number one, steve warren mentioned we bring our values to war. in fact, in the past, united states has fire bombed cities such as dresden and used atomic weapons against na...

On whether it is the kind of conduct that should send him to a military prison above and beyond what he's already been through we're basically seeing the view so far that they don't think so. >> interesting. ari, thank you very much. >> sure. north korean dictator kim jong-un says his country has developed a hydrogen bomb among the most powerful weapons in history. if this is true, that's a big if, this country hasn't provided any proof of their claim, it would mean the north has built a weapon 1,000 times bigger than the atomic weapons it previously produced. joining me bill richardson, exp...