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Rudy giuliani to help him in this moment? >> he likes people who are public attack dogs. it's the same psychology of why he had someone like michael cohen in his orbit for a long time. these are people who will go on television and defend the president to the end. maybe things are not necessarily true or fully accurate but they will be aggressive and they will punch when donald trump needs to be punching or feels he needs to be punching. i think that's what we see with both of these men, actually, with a lot of men in his orbit. that's why he brought rudy in and that's why he kept michael arou...

America and contributor emily jane fox, senior reporter at "vanity fair" who has a new book "born trump, inside america's first family." emily, i'm going to come to you first. it is perplexing what it is that tracts rudy guiliani to donald trump and makes him so loyal. he wanted to be secretary of state. he didn't get that. people thought maybe he'll get attorney general. he didn't. they have a long friendship and relationship. let's talk about the other way around. you did a biography coming out about donald trump. why would he turn to somebody like rudy jew, why specifically giuliani to help...

Giuliani to help him in this moment? >> he likes people who are public attack dogs. it's the same psychology of why he had someone like michael cohen in his orbit for a long time. these are people who will go on television and defend the president to the end. maybe things are not necessarily true or fully accurate but they will be aggressive and they will punch when donald trump needs to be punching or feels he needs to be punching. that's what we see with both men. with a lot of men in his orbit. that's why he brought rudy in and that's why he kept michael around for so long. >> david, robert...

>> it certainly is, paul. it makes it easy for a lot of our viewers to watch what's going on h. he also said if the generic spread gets up to 12, said good night, gracie, that's all she wrote. they have to keep the number around 6. let's talk about harry reid. why is one of the greatest attack dogs in the history of the congress saying don't talk about impeachment. well, mr. mccarthy made clear to us thistle ebbin this electiot turnout. the democrats are animated. what they're trying to do is not rouse the slumbering republican torlekelectorate. they're animateing the voters to -- animating th...

It makes it easy for a lot of our viewers to watch what's going on h. he also said if the generic spread gets up to 12, said good night, gracie, that's all she wrote. they have to keep the number around 6. let's talk about harry reid. why is one of the greatest attack dogs in the history of the congress saying don't talk about impeachment. well, mr. mccarthy made clear to us thistle ebbin this electiot turnout. the democrats are animated. what they're trying to do is not rouse the slumbering republican torlekelectorate. they're animateing the voters to -- animating the voters to vote