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This morning, he was a little halting. that was from the first session. so they went after him a couple of times he could be charged as president and the answer from mueller was yes. >> yes, he was consistent and firm on that. that's what the democrats will look at. there's questioning from schiff and nadler in particular that produced moments we will see on cable time and time again. having said that the trumps and white house are downright dpleeful how it went. we've seen the president's twitter account but it's not just him, the son don jr., jay secular, rudy giuliani are not just suggestin...

By saying this report will speak for me from here on out, but there probably are some parts you told me during the commercial that mr. mueller would like the public to know more about. it's in the report but didn't get a lot of coverage. >> that's right. i think robert mueller indicate he doesn't want to testify but he had every opportunity to avoid this. of the attorney general indicated he would also help him if he didn't want to testify like he claimed, but i think behind mueller is this desire to get out some allegations on the obstruction of justice. the more salacious parts and accusatio...

Doj such as former ag, acting aj rosenstein who tried to influence or tried to say that he needed to wrap up the probe at any point. >> you were saying last night, frank, the other question is a lot of americans might look up and say why are we talking about this still. >> i think that's a danger here. a lot of time has passed since the first time we heard the name robert mueller. a lot of time has passed since the attorney general i think did great damage to this, and really kind of dictated the curve of it by coming out with that four-page letter that was flattering to the president. i don't...

Evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors, as they put it. the republican strategy -- >> okay, let's just separate that because on the other side of this, of course, republicans want to ask mueller why the investigation was started in the first blais. -- place and they also want to push him on perceived bias. how far do you think they'll get with that line of questioning? >> well, we'll see. you summarized the tactics, which is the republicans don't want to talk about the evidence in the report. they don't want to talk about the legal interpretation of the evidence. they are going to as we say ...

Findings. oddly enough that's not what they are planning on doing. the absurdity at the core of this disconnect. joining our conversation former u.s. attorney joyce vance. i never thought i would start a news read with the battleplan to attack robert s. mueller from republicans in the house is x, y,z. robert s. mueller led the fbi in the terrifying months and years after 9/11. he is the only fbi director in our country's history who had his tenure extended. where is the sort of, you know, wake me up, i am in a hellscape of a nightmare? >> it to attack mueller himself. you know, prosecutors are...