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Debate after the abc debate? >> i agree. >> i think it's interesting to see how he does in new hampshire. the expectations are high. he did better than people thought in iowa but if he doesn't win by 15 or 20% in new hampshire that could weaken him going into south carolina. >> i prejosh-- i don't think hel win by 20. >> you just have to win in iowa by 8 points. >> you just have to win by 8 votes. but if -- as eric points out here, if there's a very close margin, if ron paul for example, got within 8 or 7 points that would be vulnerability. the story lynn will be romney was beginning to lose t...

>> i agree. >> i think it's interesting to see how he does in new hampshire. the expectations are high. he did better than people thought in iowa but if he doesn't win by 15 or 20% in new hampshire that could weaken him going into south carolina. >> i prejosh-- i don't think hel win by 20. >> you just have to win in iowa by 8 points. >> you just have to win by 8 votes. but if -- as eric points out here, if there's a very close margin, if ron paul for example, got within 8 or 7 points that would be vulnerability. the story lynn will be romney was beginning to lose the base and we'll talk about ...

Debate after the abc debate? >> i agree. >> i think it's interesting to see how he does in new hampshire. the expectations are high. he did better than people thought in iowa but if he doesn't win by 15 or 20% in new hampshire that could weaken him going into south carolina. >> i prejosh-- i don't think hel win by 20. >> you just have to win in iowa by 8 points. >> you just have to win by 8 votes. but if -- as eric points out here, if there's a very close margin, if ron paul for example, got within 8 or 7 points that would be vulnerability. the story lynn will be romney was beginning to lose t...

Embrace it? >> he has got to embrace it. keep in mind his principle platform is creating jobs. what newt is saying here in fact in many of these corporations he took them apart and cost them jobs. now this has been run against romney before. i think that it's not frankly the strongest attack point but, listen, you talked about the traction for gingrich in iowa. one of the reasons is not because herman cain got out. it is because there is array of like i never seen of independent committees and others out against gingrich. they're spending millions of dollars. most of that generated from washin...

♪ >> bob: welcome back to "the five." now for 2012 news. we'll start with the latest round of rick perry versus mitt romney. who exciting. >> perry goes to romney's home state of massachusetts to deal his latest blow on social security. at a private campaign event, perry said, "other candidates" gee, i wonder who he is talking about "in the race used words like fraud and compared it to criminal enterprise. under the media spotlight, they change their tune and they start sounding like liberals." clearly, he was talking about mitt romney and going back to a book that romney written himself whe...