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The politicization of ongoing investigations or of launching investigations or prosecutions. >> it also seems to me, i'm not a lawyer, so i'd like to hear what you think, that there's no criminal claim here. that this is essentially just kind of like, i know you are, but what am i? kind of argument from the white house. >> that's what makes really her comments even more abhorrent. this was clearly part of a calculated political strategy, you know. we heard recently that there were memos that the trump lawyers had prepared and sent to mueller attacking comey's credibility. a couple of weeks ago...

Of law. it goes to the heart of our justice system. that there's not supposed to be the politicization of ongoing investigations or of launching investigations or prosecutions. >> it also seems to me, i'm not a lawyer, so i'd like to hear what you think, that there's no criminal claim here. that this is essentially just kind of like, i know you are, but what am i? kind of argument from the white house. >> that's what makes really her comments even more abhorrent. this was clearly part of a calculated political strategy, you know. we heard recently that there were memos that the trump lawyers h...

Maybe, if you wanted to play their game, he would back off a little, he would get the lay of the land, he would let some of the surrogates do the dirty work, but that's on his style. he is a full on, i'm going to make changes. they don't like it, they don't like him and you're going to get more and more leaks. someone said the other day, the problem is comey was so well-liked at the fbi that you run the risk if you're attacking comey, you run the risk that all of those troops, the rank and file that supported comey, they're going to be leaking in any which way they can and none of them like hi...

Tweeting. stop attacking comey. and yet he continues. any word from inside the white house on continued efforts, continued hopes that he would stop putting himself in additional legal jeopardy by doing this? >> well, we've seen this movie a few times already. i think any aide to the president or lawyer to the president who has any hopes of stopping him from tweeting is probably at this point either fooling themselves or has some much more nefarious plan to grab his twitter account. but he's not going to do it. what we've seen is very tangible effects of these tweets in the last few days. james...

Russia probe and attacking comey, himself. >> no collusion, no obstruction. he's a leaker. >> he's saying he never asked for comey's loyalty at that now infamous dinner meeting. >> i hardly know the man. i'm not going to say, i want you to pledge allegiance. >> so, dangling the possibility out there of tapes. refusing to say if he has recordings of conversations in the oval office. a lot to discuss now. i want to get straight to white house correspondent athena jones, political analyst carl bernstein, political commentator david swerdlick, national political reporter, mave reston. good evening...