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Raise the debt limit without conditions. some republicans are open to that idea. democrats want to go that route but conservatives want reforms as well. very difficult issue ahead. perhaps the president now recognizing that and passing the blame on capitol hill, jake. >> all right. manu raju, thank you so much. talk about this with our panel. sara, start with you. you know, i can't recall any president feuding this much with a senate majority leader, even if they were of different parties? like this is -- forget the twitter part of it. the things he has said publicly, the president, about mc...

[ inaudible ] with the 55 democrats to prevent an economic collapse in the country. the result was chaos on the senate floor. you were there. >> i was there. >> you want me to read your column to you? >> mitch mcconnell was running around with three fingers in the air, the number of votes they needed. they were scrambling. these guys were ring hands and there was ted cruz chewing bubble gum with hands in pocket. he didn't care how it turned out. the whole idea was the disruption was the purpose. the means were the end. >> and you have him smirking at the confusion and hell of the republican pa...

On his own or would he have had to have some help in coming to the conclusion this was a viable political move he was making? >> no, i think this was a situation in which i think speaker boehner and minority leader mcconnell and harry reid all thought they had this agreement, it looked like it was going to go forward and when the speaker went to go talk to his caucus last weekend he realized there was just no chance they were going to get it through the house and he found himself in sort of a no-win situation frankly. here he had the hardest conservative part of his party, the freshmen, some o...

Own people attacking mcconnell and other republicans in the senate which devolved very quickly. any support he might have been able to get, from say, leader mcconnell and others in the senate was just not going to come at that point once house republicans started attacking the senate. >> well, then moving forward, just thinking about his effectiveness in congress, if this all started with he and harry reid and mitch mcconnell sitting down and making a deal and it turns out that john boehner's negotiation meant nothing, that he couldn't actually speak for his own caucus, why would anybody negot...

>> no, i think this was a situation in which i think speaker boehner and minority leader mcconnell and harry reid all thought they had this agreement, it looked like it was going to go forward and when the speaker went to go talk to his caucus last weekend he realized there was just no chance they were going to get it through the house and he found himself in sort of a no-win situation frankly. here he had the hardest conservative part of his party, the freshmen, some of the long-term conservatives, the tea party types were adamant they weren't going to agree with this. there was some hope tha...