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This. newt gingrich actually offering word of advice perhaps for president obama, bain didn't work for him, it's not going to work for the white house, what do you make of that? >> i don't think the president will take advice from newt gingrich in terms of how he's going to run his re-election campaign. if you look at what the president said yesterday, it's obvious he's not going to back down on this, double down on it, clearly wants to get into the debate. when asked at the end of the nato press conference yesterday, he went in forcefully, said romney played it fair game, he's running on his ...

Definitely closing the gap with the president. in april if you look at team oek obama, outside super pacs, obama had 144 million cash on hand, romg had 77.5. that's a 2-1 spending and that's 2-1 advantage although the fund-raising numbers from april are much, much closer, basically neck and neck. >> right. we're seeing played out in real time results of the roberts court activist intervention to change the marketplace for campaign finance and to allow the wealthy to give as much they want in an unlimited way. we looked at top 16 don't to romney's super pac, you see they're all very old guys, i...

Greedy destructive model of capitalism about going in and dismantling corporations for profit, driving up debt, imposing a harsh austerity program on them and squeezing every penny out of them possible. >> in terms of how fair and kind and good to the american worker private this kind of corporate buy-out work is, that's one thing. how does a president deliver that message while not indicting everybody involved in private equity? >> i don't think he is indicting everybody involved in private equity. i think there's a clever counterattack on the part of romney and the republicans to say, if you...

They invested in companies that were in such bad shape they weren't able to save those jobs. that's a good batting average in the private sector business. >> eric, i'm not sure anybody is able to do an incredibly effective job with the bain thing. as patricia said the president has to tread a sensitive line, as far as not alienating wall street and/or seeming like he's an enemy of capitalism, whereas romney, when they get into 80% of the companies -- first the notion that bain was even the premise of bain was to create jobs is a ridiculous one. beyond that the record, x number of jobs created ...

>> a lot of focus groups. >> a lot of digging here. i do think, it's very difficult to watch the obama administration go after bain capital and also still pulling their bunches, we know that's because of the fund-raising base on wall street. and he's really i think trying to do two dances at the same time. i don't think that the fund-raising piece is coming up to the surface yet but one of his biggest was in the leadership of bain while this was going on. he's treading in relatively dangerous territory in this attack alone, but they believe an attack is going to work, they're going to keep doi...