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We've had kind of a u shape, i guess is the best way to put it and, you know, listen, it's jobs -- creating jobs is not supposed to cost the american taxpayer money. it's supposed to money back into their -- back into the federal payroll. i mean, this is the most absurd thinking and i'll tell you, when you spend money on jobs like this, you get solyndra, you know, this solar panel gimmick that the obama administration funded with stimulus money. i mean, guess what? that's what happens. companies like that that do not have economic sustainability, we should point out, solyndra after getting a $...

Jenna: great, that sounds good. private manning, 22 new charges for the man that some say was the one that started this whole wikileaks scandal. there's been a lot said about where he's being kept, how he's being detained, whether or not he's being treated correctly. you've seen him in person, what are the conditions like? >> well, there has been a lot said, but it's been by a few particular outlets with their own agendas. they've suggested that he's been harshly treated or differently treated, even saying that he's in isolation. none of that is true, but i wanted to see for myself, so i went ...

They are close. wyoming senator. dick durbin, one of the president's closest friends in the senate. >> should it be a u-shape or square? debate over the table shape. >> hollow in the middle, not a great political term. >> are you going to fill the donut hole here? jay rockefeller who has been working on this for year. ron widen. no bob bennett. remember the widen-bennett bill early on was the only health care bill in the united states senate that had a bunch of bipartisan supporters from john mccain to ron widen. >> the main idea was giving you a choice outside employer-based health care if yo...

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