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Different. the rules in iowa have changed too, so we're not going to see the same second place duke it out that we've seen in the past. so i think that if donald trump does secure a solid lead in iowa, it's going to be hard for anybody else to take that down. now, nikki haley's within a stone's throw i in new hampshire. if she has a really good performance in new hampshire, if she ekes it out somehow, she gets every one of chris christie's votes and ekes it out, that'll be interesting to look at. but right now the polls just suggest that donald trump is is so far and away that i have a hard ti...

Each other down. so i think it was an instructive moment, a teaching moment, and i think something positive came out of it last night. neil: i give you credit, you did let them speak. some of them wouldn't let you speak, and some of them even interrupted you as you were trying to say i'll listen, i'll listen. but this is the kind of thing that does pop up on the campaign stump, and you know that more often than not for a lot of candidates. what's your advice to candidates in dealing with this? >> my advice is don't be thrown off. i think a lot of times you've seen other instances of campaigns ...

He tried twice and failed miserably. and and then you've got the coasts, california and new york, thinking that somehow we're not progressive enough out here, so they just take it away. and our iowa democratic party, quite frankly, didn't fight back. i'll barn guarantee i would have had somebody tried to pull that on the republicans, and they've socially just given away first in the nation. as far as iowa goes, we're going to have a terrific organization, a terrific, transparent if process on monday, and i start angling for 2028 on january 16th. neil: that's funny. you know, jeff, how do iowan...

[inaudible] if brought a lot of young people along with forms of nuclear policy that many in the climate movement have wrongly rejected. my advice is if you're running to lead the nation, run to lead the entire nation, not just the people you agree with. and that's the way i do hope to lead this nation the from the white house, neil. neil: you know, you got a big enforcement out of the blue from a republican congressman in iowa. now, a lot of people say it came late in the game, but he explained earlier on he likes you, likes your message, he thinks it's very promising, and he doesn't buy the ...

She's been in the middle of this all week, not once complaining about the snow and the cold, a quality of hers that i do not admire. anyway, she's with us now. aishah, how are things over there? >> reporter: we are inside, so i'm really, really well. we're inside smitty's ors, one of the most popular place here in des moines where people are going to come in in just a few minutes and talk politics expect weather as well. this has been around since 1967. they've seen a lot of caucuses. this is going to be the coldest one ever, and i want the talk to my friend, owner ben smith. i want to ask you...