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2008. and he's been an aggressive defender of these kinds of programs during his time in office. he did make clear, i'll say, brooke, that congress has oversight of this, and the courts do, but we should point out that the details of this are only shared in classified settings in a way where the public cannot find out about them. so it is a very small set of people who have known about it until now. >> yeah, mentioning congressional oversight a number of times when he spoke today and the federal judges and the audit process. you know and i know, our viewers know these go back -- >> reporter: c...

One other thing on software that i found interesting. for years, software companies have been concerned that bone o the biggest users of software is the chinese. according the chinese, according to our government, have promised to stop using counterfeit software. in fact, this time, have put money in a budget, in an audit process, to legalize the software used. if the chinese follow through on that, that would be a big win for the software industry. >> christine, that 245,000 jobs being supported week talking about sustaining existing jobs, is that what that lingo means? supporting? >> they us...

Have identified the fact in the process to get tax-exempt status they found people were discriminated against now they find that even in the audit process a few are approved it is still some -- easy for those three people to say we will audit we don't need leadership bad we can't freelance. kennedy: a lot of the groups are under surveillance before they were notified there was any issue or a potential audit. so they were spied upon for philosophical differences. >> i would like to see the irish street people fairly but it is somewhat juror disagree with but i want to audit them because they ar...