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Know it in a hurry. >> sean: all right. you don't need the fence? >> i think there are places that strategic fencing. i think the idea of saying, listen, i am going to build a double fence. we are going to put alligators between it and lava in there as well. wong tries to outdo the other one -- that's 2,000 miles. the idea of building a 2,000-mile fence takes huge amounts of money and takes a very long period of time. but strategic fencing in the high-traveled areas where they are absolutely use it there. then, you aug.ment that with the most powerful piece of the strategy and that's the boots...

Know it in a hurry. >> sean: all right. you don't need the fence? >> i think there are places that strategic fencing. i think the idea of saying, listen, i am going to build a double fence. we are going to put alligators between it and lava in there as well. wong tries to outdo the other one -- that's 2,000 miles. the idea of building a 2,000-mile fence takes huge amounts of money and takes a very long period of time. but strategic fencing in the high-traveled areas where they are absolutely use it there. then, you aug.ment that with the most powerful piece of the strategy and that's the boots...

Know it in a hurry. >> sean: all right. you don't need the fence? >> i think there are places that strategic fencing. i think the idea of saying, listen, i am going to build a double fence. we are going to put alligators between it and lava in there as well. wong tries to outdo the other one -- that's 2,000 miles. the idea of building a 2,000-mile fence takes huge amounts of money and takes a very long period of time. but strategic fencing in the high-traveled areas where they are absolutely use it there. then, you aug.ment that with the most powerful piece of the strategy and that's the boots...

You put those assets on the border. the only bottleneck i see with being able to do that is training enough predator drone pilots. we have the other conflicts going on around the world, but we quickly can shut that border down, bad guys will know it in a hurry. caller: all right. but you don't need a fence, in your view? >> i think there are places that strategic fencing -- >> sean: but not across the whole border. >> listen, saying, i am going to build a double fence and put alligators and lava in there as well. one tries to out-do the other one. that's 2,000 miles. the idea of building a 2,0...

You put those assets on the border. the only bottleneck i see with being able to do that is training enough predator drone pilots. we have the other conflicts going on around the world, but we quickly can shut that border down, bad guys will know it in a hurry. caller: all right. but you don't need a fence, in your view? >> i think there are places that strategic fencing -- >> sean: but not across the whole border. >> listen, saying, i am going to build a double fence and put alligators and lava in there as well. one tries to out-do the other one. that's 2,000 miles. the idea of building a 2,0...