MSNBC Dateline October 19, 2019 09:39:00
>> but you must have been ready to let it go at some point, said, we can't do this, just forget about it. >> that conversation happened any number of times over the years, but at each time we said no, there's got to be a way to move this forward. >> it was larry's kind of constant input, part of the thing that kept you going here? >> of course. i mean none of us wanted to get that call saying, hey, larry's -- larry wants to see you right away and he's not happy. >> when we spoke to larry in 2015 darren's trial was on the calendar for march of the following year, and the odds larry gave of that...