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Will equate to jobs. and michigan is an auto state. so a lot of blue collar workers work for the auto industry and -- or spin-offs of the auto industry. if we can reform trade in the jobs and those are the issues he pressed, i think he's going to do real good. >> and, obviously, brad and many, many others in the auto industry as well, on his plan for the country. >> ron, thank you for that. also this morning, the dow jones industrial average hitting an all-time high crossing the 21,000 mark for the first time ever. msnbc's chief business correspondent and anchor ali velshi is live at the new...

Is an auto state and has been particularly hard hit back in the year in 2003, a manufacturing worker in michigan got about $28 an hour. this has dropped. after you adjust for inflation, it has dropped to $20 an hour today. manufacturing worker in michigan went from $28 to $20 after adjusting for inflation. >> almost a 30% drop. >> exactly. there's nothing in the trump plan, nothing really in anybody's plan pretty much for how to resolve this. and then we talked about competition. when you asked about automation versus wages. here's the challenge. and kristen referred to this as well. we pay at...

Ohio among white voters. so we have in ohio obama doing 7 to 11 points better among white voters and white men specifically than he does nationally in part because of this. >> so 850,000 jobs related to the auto industry in the state of ohio. one in eight jobs in ohio is an auto related job. that's huge. and when you add to that the mobilization against sb 5, the anti-collective bargaining bill that did pass the legislature but then the ballot initiative reversed that, that brought together a coalition of white union members with african-americans and latinos that did not go home after that ba...

Let's turn to senator sherrod brown of ohio. great to have you with us tonight. >> good to be back. >> this is mitt romney trying to reinvent himself on the automobile loan, which of course, was risky business politically for the president. is romney's stance on this auto industry hurting him in ohio or helping him? >> it's the primary reason that romney just can't get traction in this state. i'm talking to you from cleveland. it's northeast ohio, but all of ohio. we're an auto state. we're a food processing state. we're a medical device state. but we know what this meant to ohio. look at it t...

Don't think they are going to forget either. let's turn to senator sherrod brown of ohio. great to have you with us tonight. >> good to be back. >> this is mitt romney trying to reinvent himself on the automobile loan, which of course, was risky business politically for the president. is romney's stance on this auto industry hurting him in ohio or helping him? >> it's the primary reason that romney just can't get traction in this state. i'm talking to you from cleveland. it's northeast ohio, but all of ohio. we're an auto state. we're a food process iing state. we're a medical device state. bu...