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You were actually in the white house bus behind the limousine itself. i suppose a question for both of you right off the top, how does it feel to have been involved so directly in an event of such magnitude? let me ask you first. >> of course, it's an event none of us planned to be involved in, so the shock was enormous. you didn't have time really to have emotions at that time. i think those of us who were involved in it, i think you went on sort of automatic pilot, you know to do what you just instinctually know to do. >> dr. jones, you were 31 years old. you'd been operating that day, part ...

You right off the top, how does it feel to have been involved so directly in an event of such magnitude? let me ask you first. >> of course, it's an event none of us planned to be involved in, so the shock was enormous. you didn't have time really to have emotions at that time. i think those of us who were involved in it, i think you went on sort of automatic pilot, you know to do what you just instinctually know to do. >> dr. jones, you were 31 years old. you'd been operating that day, part of a surgical team, in the cafeteria and relaxing, somebody runs in and tells you, they say the preside...

We don't deal with every year spending more than we have, increasing the national debt. when does it stop? and you can say they voted for these budgets. they voted for one-third of the budget but not for the entitlements which are two-thirds. and entitlements happen on automatic pilot. something has to happen. and the test is how magnanimous is this president going to be in willing to negotiate? he won big. no surprise. he won big. and henry hyde could have told him that and newt gingrich could have told him that. >> do you believe that it was possible for john boehner three weeks ago to do wh...

Balanced approach like many bipartisan commissions have been. you have to look at the spending side, especially the so-called mandatory spending side. things are on automatic pilot. you have to look at revenue. if you take that off the table, you put much too big a burden on everybody else. and so i was worried the other day when the speaker of the house said, hey, i want a negotiation. i want to sit down at the table. by the way, we refuse to talk about revenue. that's not a negotiation. the american people recognize that's trying to rig the discussion before it starts. i hope our republican ...

The country is doomed if we don't deal with every year spend morg ing more than we have. increasing the national debt. when does it stop? you can say they voted for the budgets. they voted for one third of the budget. they didn't vote for the entitlements. which are almost 2/3. and the entitlements happen on automatic pilot. something has to happen. to me, the real test is how magnanimous is this president going to be in welling illing t negotia negotiate. he won big. henry hyde could have told him that. >> can you referee a discussion we are having about john boehner's leadership style. do yo...