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Reserve program. this comes after a 73-year-old volunteer who says he accidentally shot an unarmed suspect and killed him, robert bates was charged on monday in the death of eric harris. he turned himself over on tuesday. meanwhile, the actuals "tulsa world" says supervisors at the sheriff's office were ordered to falsify the training records. it's referring directly to bate bates. bates' attorney told msnbc it is incredulous that these reports were made by the newspaper. we should note that story has not been independently confirmed by nbc news. joining me now is reporter for the "tulsa world...

>> turning now to sam smallen, the attorney for the family of eric harris, zeba branstetter from "the tulsa world" and andy coats, from the university oklahoma college of law and a former criminal defense attorney. zeba i want to get to your report tonight about the possible falsifying of the training records of this reserve deputy. tell us what you know about that. >> well, this is something we started hearing, lawrence like one day after the shooting. multiple sources called us. they were afraid to speak with their names, but they had said that the training records for deputy bates were not ...