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Buzzfeed. quote, the special counsel spokesman told others in the government he would have more vigorously discouraged the reporter from proceeding with the story. matt, take us through the play by play of the buzzfeed story and the mueller pushback, which seemed remarkable. >> on the day that buzzfeed was planning to report this story, this sent an e-mail to the spokesman for the special counsel's office, who has become kind of famous for responding no comment, the mueller team doesn't leak, they don't give you background. they dash off a message saying

Saying all aspects of the buzzfeed story were false. to eevaluate the story you would need to know a lot more. clearly something material and significant the special counsel's office believes was wrong. and that's a problem for people in journalism. without knowing the facts and knowing what's in dispute and what the actual facts are of the reporting process, et cetera, it hard to evaluate what mueller said and it's hard to evaluate b buzzfeed reporting on the story. and donald trump, who had sort of pinned to the mat, this is a moment where he and his allies were able to get up off the mat.

Certain -- him and certainly did not tell him to lie. >> you just acknowledged it possible that president trump talked to michael cohen about his testimony. >> which would be perfectly normal, which the president believed is true. >> so it possible that president trump talked to michael cohen. >> i don't know if it happened or it didn't happen and it might be attorney/client privilege, if it happened, where i can't acknowledge it. >> the media, including this program, struggled on friday on how to handle the buzzfeed story on the allegation in a president trump encouraged michael cohen to lie ...

Money, a huge score, and was saying things on the campaign trail that were unusual for a candidate for president and were thanksgiving that putin would want to hear, a tax on nato, for example. in a by itself in any other era would be a massmassive, massive scandal. >> it is and giuliani thinks it's exculpatory. >> let ta's talk about the buzzd story. are you surprised there hasn't by any other reporting backing it up and what do you make of buzzfeed standing by their store? john? >> it is extraordinary that mueller's office put out the statement it did. >> extraordinary. >> there is a lot of ...

Nick, you have thoughts on this matter, i can tell. >> there's a twitch. i do think we should not give in the habit of giving prosecutors so much deference that we assume their statements are accurate and reporting is not accurate. sometimes prosecutors lie or shade the truth. however, i did interpret the at the same time from osc as a very direct denial of the core premise of the story, as a direct denial that cohen had told these things to osc. that is the key thing. it's also important to point out that this is also a piece of information that was missing from the request for comment that b...