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After that another official whose name is redacted. i'm aware of one individual in the budgets review office who expressed concerns. were those concerns expressed to you? yes. question, okay, and who was that individual at brd? answer, name was redacted. what did that redacted person's name tell you? >> she made a general comment that reflected a concern about the apportionments. her control was vis-a-vis the impoundment control. once congress has allocated these funds, the president cannot hold them up. the president was trying to

And what were those concerns? answer, the concerns were vis-a-vis the impoundment control act. so that appears to be a pentagon official speaking on behalf of herself and her staff raising concerns about potential illegality of this hold from the president. there's other official whose name is also redacted. mark sandy says, quote, i'm aware of one individual from the budget review division who expressed similar concerns. were those concerns expressed to you? answer, on one occasion i definitely recall. question, who was that one individual at brd? answer, name is redacted. question, what did ...

Against russian aggression, so it's not just about the quid pro quo that he'll be able to testify to. he had the brilliant bureaucratic maneuvering in which he said hey, that phone call, i think it's shady what you said in that phone call. he put it all in writing. he could also testify to a br d broader testimony in mihistory. >> jeff mason, the white house is trying to say that the president doesn't know who any of these people are. it may be the president doesn't know bill taylor, but the president knows ambassador sondland and bill taylor is on a text chain with sondland. they're talking a...

Not unusual. we frequently conduct investigations and build cases and prosecutions on the basis of cooperators and witnesses who have credibility problems. there are ways to address those problems in court, as long as the witness has admitted the misdeeds and the lies that he's stated prior to that fact and has taken some sort of responsibility and culpability for it. they can still provide testimony that is compelling and relevant to a prosecution. >> with what you've heard from the southern district, where they gave him, like, a qualified check, right? they said he was kind of helpful to us,...

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