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That don't want to vote for romney. if they go for one candidate, he might be defeated. if they go to three candidates, he is not going to get defeated. that is why in the long rank terms, gingrich -- long range terms, gingrich has to knock santorum, because he can't let santorum stay in the race if he has a chance at beating romney. >> sean: why do you think, as we watched all the other republicans rise in the polls, then fall back from michele bachmann to perry, to cain to gingrich. now rick santorum is viewed as the more conservative or the anti-romney, whatever argument you want to use. wh...

>> good to see you, sean. >> sean: first after all, we expect a bounce. usually about ten points. this is significant for santorum. your reaction to the poll numbers? >> yeah, i think, i would not be surprised if santorum actually challenges romney for the lead in new hampshire. there are two candidates who are generous, that unique, if you are forthem, you are for them. if you are against them, you are against them. ron paul and mitt romney. everybody else is basically spongeable. if you are for huntsman or you are for bachmann or perry or gingrich, you might as well be for santorum. they're ...

>> good to see you, sean. >> sean: first after all, we expect a bounce. usually about ten points. this is significant for santorum. your reaction to the poll numbers? >> yeah, i think, i would not be surprised if santorum actually challenges romney for the lead in new hampshire. there are two candidates who are generous, that unique, if you are forthem, you are for them. if you are against them, you are against them. ron paul and mitt romney. everybody else is basically spongeable. if you are for huntsman or you are for bachmann or perry or gingrich, you might as well be for santorum. they're ...

Happened. >> what i would like to do is have the win-win-win plan. ♪ oh, my, goodness. yes. i haven't had a gaffe. now, with the president, he put us in libya. he is now putting us in africa. because he has a lot of chutzpa. i'm a serious candidate for president of the united states, and my facts are accurate. what i love about new hampshire, you're the state where the shot was heard around the world at lexington and concord. john wayne was from waterloo, iowa? there was a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result of the vac...

I mean, so i think liberals have got to take rick santorum very seriously at this point. and, of course, money is going to have everything to do with it. >> yeah. they should take him seriously. they should also take seriously the fact he isn't just talking about abortion and same-sex marriage. >> no, he's not. >> every one of his speeches involves an address that talks about manufacturing. >> yeah, we're going to talk about that. >> bring jobs back to the united states. >> you bet. we're going to touch on that later in the show. john nichols. great to have you with us tonight. in iowa. mich...