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It's going to come back. and it's complete and utter pandering because he is going to be running for president. >> but judy isn't that giving those who want to discriminate an alibi? and i understand what you are saying, you don't want to go where you are not wanted you don't want to do business where you are not viewed as equal -- and i really believe that's how these people view this. >> right. >> but this has to be pushed back against, doesn't it? >> absolutely. we covered this in first amendment. you know when you think about the boston tea party which was also somewhat similar to this you...

Open. we're stronger now. we're wiser now. god knows, we are hungry and there aren't enough low information voters in the country to save the other side this year if we don't retreat. and when we meet next, lord willing, harry reid, either he will be the senate minority leader or a black jack dealer in vegas where everything stays in vegas. okay. another reason though to feel good about our future and our movement is because culturally, man, we are pushing back against, well, some would call these perpetual panties in a wad people. and you know them. these folks, they're quick with a quote abo...

John goodman says is going to seem like an old worry. what do you think? >> well, i would say that people aren't worried enough because the risk -- there's a federal risk pool established for people who are sick, it's going to end in a month or so. and those people go to exchanges, and states with risk pools end soon and those good on the exchange. the cities like detroit that promised benefits they can't pay for, they going to dump people on the exchange. a lot of employers do the same. so i have a fear that the pool is just going to be a sicker and sicker, which means more and more costly. >...

Pushing back against, one of the liberal backlash, is a theological difference on economics. people who on the left who don't want a continuation of the ruben school which is what you get with larry summers. you have this amazing human drama. very important, the most interesting line from the president's closed-door meetings on the hill yesterday, he threw out a third name. he took the pressure off himself a little bit and mentioned a third possibility, don kohn, the vice chairman, the job that janet yellen, the other contender now is in, during the bush administration, bush nominee. he's prov...

Week when the book broke and among the things the white house was pressing back against, they were mostly related to the russia investigation. there was a broad indictment of the reporters' tactics. the first thing the white house did to rapidly respond, and as a former white house staffer, you covered the white house in which i worked, i'm always interested in response. the first thing they did was pull the logs to try to say he wasn't here that much. that ended up not being particularly exculpatory because he had been there for 17-hour long visits. i wonder if you can talk about the delta be...