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And dad's policy as long as she's a dependent. so let's bring up someone else, if i can get her going here, hold on one second. all right. bad back bob. bob is not a happy camper. he has a bad back and he has a pre-existing condition and he's had a terrible time finding anyone who is willing to insure him for a reasonable price. so now bob under health care reform, will immediately go into a high-risk pool. in other words, he'll have insurance and further down the line private companies won't be allowed to say no to him. so bob under health care reform is a happy camper. kyra? >> you'll be sta...

They don't get it through their employers. so what they're wondering is, what's going to happen to their premiums? are they going to go up or down? and what i'm here to tell you is that according to the congressional budget office, their premiums will likely to go up. they're too wealthy to qualify for the subsidies that you and i have talked a lot about. i can't tell you if the premiums are going to go up a lot or a little, but the premiums are going to go up. >> the logic is they don't get subsidies and health care costs are going up, and as a result the premiums are going up. the only way y...

Need a hand filling out the forms. >> and we'll bring back bob. >> editor and chief of the hill, 4 million on office furniture and 8000 on a stair cylmer on a day when americans are sending tax money to the government that is galling. >> over all, if you are going to blame congress for budget cuts then you have to have a clean budget and defend everything that you spent money on. he will defend his employees, that's normal. but the irs has been less than forth coming to the public in the information act request as well as to congress on the lois lerner e-mail scandal. and that's what is at the...