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Exactly why for him in particular was the reason to have back channels. one thing to have national security back channels and another thing for other individuals in the white house. that's a reasonable question and we'll look to get clear answer. >> reporter: the white house is now refusing to answer any questions about the white house probe. press secretary sean spicer said all future questions need to be referred directly to recently retained outside counsel marc kasowitz. jake? >> thanks so much. much more on that russian banker ahead in the program. but coming up next, if the president d...

Conversation could be discrete. but this was a transition team. this was an administration in waiting, trying to establish secret communications, secret from the americans while the government in power, president obama's administration was facing and making decisions of a very serious nation with regard to the russian federation. i wouldn't call this a back channel at all. >> so the response has been from the administration and suppo supporters that other administrations have had back channels. but he doesn't see these meetings as a back channel at all. >> i think he's right. for someone who's...

Secretary. two gentlemen, vast military experience. two generals who, you know, you would think would know a little something on this. but a very difficult position to be put in. quite frankly, we're going to hear this every day now about jared kushner until we come to some kind of resolution. >> i want you to listen to this because this is the former cia director michael hayden. he was on cnn earlier. here's how he sees kushner's meeting about back channels. >> in general, back channels are an important part of diplomacy. this wasn't in general. this was specific. i wouldn't even call it a ba...

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Questions about his december meeting with jared kushner. kushner's push to create secret communication with russia also drawing scrutiny from investigators. >> we're trying to figure out exactly why for him in particular was the reason that back channels. one thing national security back chab els, another thing for other individuals in the white house. that's a very reasonable question. well look to get clearances. >> and house intelligence committee issuing seven subpoenas. four related to the russian probe and three related to the issue of unmasking or unveiling of americans in intelligence ...