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Agricultural industry the farmers need china to sell the stuff to. this bows goeth ways, they have a lot of cards in their hand. >> charlie, thank you. so, with more worries about debt, critics say this is no time to bring back earmarks. >> the president warrants earmarks back, do you? >> no, i'm not a big fan of earmarks. i think our constitutional responsibility should lie with the entire 1.1 trillion that we're about to appropriate, not just a few small dollars. it's normally a way to provide leverage and increase spending. i don't know that it's something that i can support. >> so what doe...

Wall? why shouldn't they? >> martha: two things that are going to tick off very strong conservatives, bill, one is the suggestion of amnesty, that marc just talked about and also the president's suggestion why don't you bring back earmarks? i remember all of the debate over earmarks. now the question is well you have sort of eradicated the element that allows people to bargain and now nothing gets done. that's the argument that the president was making to bring them back in a limited form. what do you think of this? >> well, we will see. i remember the art of the deal, which i have read in par...

Growth came out and said no, no, no. here is his statement. republicans, if they bring back earmarks then it virtually guarantees they'll lose the house. bring back earmarks is the antithesis of draining the swamp. it goes against everything that his supporters have stood for. perhaps he is floating something out to democrats. >> sam stein, it seems, though -- i'll make friends with my former colleagues. if he wants to step out of the steve bannon box, he has to start ignoring everything that the republican leadership says. nothing that had will get him to the comprehensive immigration reform ...

Pathway to citizenship for d.r.e.a.m.ers. that sort of leadership could produce bipartisan progress and i have to remain hopeful it's possible or it's not worth getting on the train every morning from wilmington, delaware, down to washington to do this job. this system doesn't work without compromise. i was struck that the president threw out casually into the mix yesterday that he thinks we should bring back earmarks, that congress should have some role in directing appropriations. that's one of many ways in which our budget or appropriations process is broken. we don't have an opportunity to...

Strategy. it's a politically toxic issue. the idea that members could have little giveaways for them, in order to get their votes on a bill. it's something that voters have kind of, obviously, turned on. it feels like the swamp, something that president trump wouldn't necessarily support. although it does make close votes a little bit easier to pass. and we've had a lot of close votes under trump. so, there is a case to be made that maybe you could pass more bills if you're able to give these little perks. >> there are certainly some audible reactions in the room when the president brought up ...