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Passionately. compare with justice sotomayor said on "the today show" to the dissent about the texas abortion law. she has been furious, she has been outraged. she has said the court's credibility and reputation is going to suffer because of the way they are allowing texas to ban abortion before roe v. wade is even overturned. yet, at the same time, when she's speaking in public, she's really soft peddling the differences on the court. that's a very common pattern among the justices. i can't say i understand it completely, but they all do it for their own reasons. >> so interesting. good to se...

>> does seem to be what we're looking at. we lost another officer who seemed to be just the best of what you want in an officer. >> isn't that the case that here's two latino officers that joined for all the right reasons and then the third officer, the third officer, immigrant from india, who desired to become a police officer. 15 years ago he came to this country. that is the face of the new york city police department that all these public defenders are attacking. all three of these officers live in new york city. the city has a minority majority police force. over a thousand muslim officer...

He understands the training and selection. they're going to do an even better job of getting guns off the street but it's going to be up to the prosecutors to put some of these people in jail. 6,000 guns taken off the streets last year. only 100 trials of the approximately 6,000 people carrying those guns. that means there's over 5,000 of those people still roaming the streets of new york awaiting trial. that's going to be the other half of the equation that eric is going to need a lot of help on. >> you are hitting at something pretty important. adams is defending this move. but i want to rea...

After the tragic killing 262-ye2of 22-year-old officer jason rivera. the shooter used a stolen gun and the mayor said it could have been even worse, revealing police found an ar-style assault rifle under the gunman's mattress. joining me now for more is former nypd commissioner bill bratton, the author of "the profession" community, race and the arc of policing in america. commissioner, thanks for being here. what do you think of mayor adams' plan? >> very pleased with it. it's very comprehensive. i know it's a plan. we'll have to see how it works going forward. you talked about what he is doi...

Perpetuate the harms of that culture. they say -- what they are saying is they think there are deeper problems here that aren't being addressed in this plan. what do you say to that, commissioner? >> eric understands the situation more than anybody else. his own experience both being beaten by police, and that was ironically motivation to become a cop in the first place. these people have been beating that drum for 30 years. what's it getting for new york? more violence, more disorder. more racial tension. the reality is the crime is occurring in minority neighborhoods. minorities are not bein...