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Interviewed freddie gray centering around robberies, he was sitting in an awkward manner. the officer says, what itself the problem? freddie says my back is hurting. i'm not too comfortedable. what would be significant is in the event the judge allows the defense to explore these medical record, if they do exist, showing the extent of the back problems, whether we find out whether or not there was a significant back problem that freddie gray had, when did he get it? what was the nature of it? was it connected to the spine. does it make it more likely these injuries were self inflicted? we have...

With me to discuss this, joey jackson. so joey, how important is this? because what is also being alleged, right, is that the officers did not respond accordingly when freddie gray said he needed medical help. and so how might what is being revealed here about whether he had any kind of previous back problem or not impact what the prosecution is saying? >> good afternoon, fredricka. >> good afternoon. happy new year. >> exactly. happy new year. so it depends on who you ask. prosecution, as miguel mentioned, this is totally irrelevant. why on earth do you have to look at issues relating to his ...

Significant? yes, you know, is it overwhelmingly significant? >> no. >> okay. so it's medical records from a big history of back problems, let's say by chance, he had a car accident or something like that that shows he had these issues, are you fought really feeling it, it's not going to impact the case? >> here's the point if you are a prosecutor, what you are arguing here, is this is not relevant. we are talking about a back problem. what does that have to do with a catastrophic final injury, that was according to prosecutor's examiner suffers in the back of that van? so tell me if are you t...

Gray was sitting awkwardly and may have had a back problem at this point. >> joey jackson, thank you so much. next hour the cosby case and cosby's whoo wife camille subpoenaed in a defamation suit. >> we look forward it to. thank you. >> coming up more on the massive machine hunt for a gunman that opened fire at a cafe killing two people. ian lee, a report from him at the top of the hour. >> social media is buzzing over what many are calling the best player in college football. all the details coming up in sports.

Think we found out that it hits everyone in the united states, any walk of life. my husband was a normal baseball coach, soccer dad, great husband. and addiction can hit anyone. it started with prescriptions and led to heroin addiction and death. >> so when he had the back problem, gets prescribed medicine. they gave it to him like it was candy without any really possibly knowing or letting you know the danger of addiction. were you able to jump in between when you sought down side begin to happen? what was his reaction when you did? >> i think when i saw it, i was in denial at first. i didn't...