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Pruitt have anything to do with trying to get raises for two of his supporters in the agency where he was told no by the white house, but they found another fund to go around the white house. mr. pruitt was asked by fox news. he categorically denied it. he said he had nothing to do with it. when he found out about it, he stopped it. there are a number of officials who say they don't believe that was the true story, that he did have something to do with it. so is the president aware of this fox interview and what the epa chief said? >> you know, with henry? which one, ed henry? >> yes. >> it ...

Is going to weather this one out. >> 23 ethics issues, jason. huffington post reporting that scott pruitt right now facing at least 23 ethics issues. does this send a message in washington that anyone is safe as long as they carry out the president's agenda? >> no, craig. it delivers even more important message which is anyone that's safe in washington, d.c., if donald trump likes you. seriously, that's how his personal doctor can run the veterans association. if donald trump has a personal relationship with you, not just a tweet, i like michael flynn, but if he has a personal relationship wit...

It's just different. the stakes are different. the questions are different and, as we saw, the follow-ups are different from people who know what they're doing. >> those are pretty tough follow-ups from ed-ry there. >> big deterrent to remove scott pruitt is that he's doing exactly what the president wants him to do. there's also a question about well, if someone needed to replace him, could they be confirmed, even in this current senate with a narrow republican majority it's uncertain. >> he succeeded in terms of rolling back regulation. a big friend of industry, which matters in this white h...

Listen, i think there's a lot of people around him that he trusts. >> like who? >> i'm not going to start naming names. when you name names, you leave people out. he says, oh, he trusts abc but he left zyx. i'm not going to start naming names. i think he trusts his staff. by and large, you guys don't like this, but i think he's done a very, very good job. look at the dash board of america since he became president. wages, economic growth. look at what's going on around the world as it relates to a reduction of violence. look at the opportunity that's being created in iran right now. look at th...

Can point to and say look, he did what we asked him to do. especially in terms of rolling back legislation -- rolling back regulation. that's really, really important. especially to a lot of those midwest voters. >> contradicting himself. >> exactly. it's an unnecessary error. he doesn't need to do that. there's a lot of conservatives reluctantly and -- depending on where you fell and how you felt about trump, who are pretty pleased with what he's done, particular on the supreme court justice, on the appointment of people to the courts. and on rolling back legislation. >> just a great point on...