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Having the cia intervene with the fbi investigation and try to shut it down. this has parallels to that. that i think is the most problematic part for the president until such time as he testifies. and tha then that will become the most problematic part. >> i got one of the phone calls, i won't say which official trying to push back reporting that turned out to be true. but michael i want to play what the president said about obstruction of justice during an impromptu q&a with reporters at the white house. here's the back and forth. >> do you think robert mueller will be fair to you in this la...

How white house officials are now explaining this. i will leave it to you to say these words to i don't have to. what are you hearing? >> people said to me over the weekend there is a semantic difference. some people heard the phrase shit-house instead of shit-hole and are using that to knock back reporting. and they're using that discrepancy to say the president did not make those comments. to be clear, i've called my sources repeatedly over the weekend. i know colleagues, other outlets have too and no one in the white house is denying it other than the president that he made a similar remark...

Playbook. >> yes. discredit fake news, attempt to dischristopher darden credit the women, threaten a lawsuit. >> it is all trump. and donald trump won a year ago. and he now controls the courts and the agencies that determine how these kinds of crimes are going to be dealt with in workplaces and in criminal courts for lifetime appointments. >> there is two pieces across today that i want to get your feedback on. because they really remind me of the preweinstein reporting, which is that once weinstein, other allegations came out, there was all this back reporting, and you wrote a great piece ab...

Because they really remind me of the preweinstein reporting, which is that once weinstein, other allegations came out, there was all this back reporting, and you wrote a great piece about this. here is first the new yorker saying locals were troubled by roy moore's interactions with teen girls at the gadsden mall. and then i think crucially, al.com, local outlet with locally sourced quotes from folks in gadsden say moore's predatory behavior at mall restaurants not a secret. this guy has been a public guy for 40 years. and 40 years you have folks in his small town in hometown alabama alabama s...

The cuyahoga county prosecutor, not the city prosecutor. that prort will get the case after the police finish their investigation and present evidence to the grand jury. it will be some time before they can officially claim the shooting of tamir rice was justified. joining me now, civil and criminal rights attorney. political reporter at the the "washington post." jamani williams, new york city councilman and former police academy instructor, retired nypd detective and a member of black law enforcement alliance. thanks to all of you for joining us this morning. leslie, i want to start with you...