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Realize that self-pity is not just a luxury, it's a folly. >> and that's what's so beautiful about the way that you wrote about this in this column. and you talk at length about some of the trials you've gone through, stabbing yourself daily or multiple times a day as part of a trial. but you say it's changed the way you look at people and interact with people. how? >> i pick up on things people say that i didn't before. i was giving a speech a year ago down south and one of the university officials came backstage to say hello to me. i had heard somebody say maybe she'd make it there and maybe...

Multiple time going gack -- going back years. andrew kosinski is with me. what did he find. >> the president has ten total interactions with these guys. >> ten? >> the earliest was march 2014 and took a photo at his club at doral at a golf tournament before he ran for president. and then december 2018 at a white hanukkah party. if we take these interactions in total it makes this claim that the president didn't know them -- it doesn't seem true to me. there is -- they had an intd -- an intimate dinner at the trump hotel, and talking eight to 15 people and they had vip access to trump rallies, ...

Someone rather than, we can just text them now. our face is always in our phones now at night looking and watching. >> is it good or bad? >> that's bad. i think we need to go back into actually meeting people nowadays. we're more on, we can see you but we don't see you. >> what due think about your generation makes you capable of doing things, or the early generation being able to get it right? >> we are the most connected generation the planet has ever seen. i mean, what's the basis change, right? it is connection. social media could be good, could be bad. you know? but it provides that platf...

Today is a big day in iowa, 13 of the democratic presidential candidates are in des moines for the legendary fundraiser that gives the k contenders the final opportunity to pitch their platform to tens of thousands of voters. there will be block party, march, concerts. there will be people dressed up as i don't know what. dancing in overalls. and presumably grumbles back stage about a new poll that shows four of the democratic contenders locked in a tight race. joining me from des moines, vaughn hillyard and at the big board here in new york, steve kornacki. steve, were they dressed up as mini...

Caucus. and to be a fly on the wall back stage as a new poll shows four of them locked in a very tight race for that state. plus she's now got a plan for that.