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And i believe this is an absolutely outrageous action by the governor, and there will be a price to be paid. >> cindy, what about the outside groups that have poured money into the state to try to make this a right-to-work state? how much of an influence have they had in this? >> you know, i don't think they're going to have the influence that they want to have. they put $2 million just in the last few days into the state of michigan, the koch brothers, you know, groups with alec, and it really is these outside influences trying to change our state. you know, we had a governor who ran a campai...

14 kisses this summer and half came on the employers' side. they were arguing for the employer and they came out on their side and another where they came out and said a union tooked incorrect action and, pushed back against that in terms of that case. so it is not always immediately bad for the economy and employers for the nlrb. >> there is a lot to be said, and i am doing it for both of you, the government right now is too big and it is getting in the way of job growth and companies being able to grow and expand. isn't nlrb necessary in this day and age after we have had a fight to the 1th ...

Detroit. >> we've been watching news about michigan and automakers, those in detroit and others where there are plants, what does this news mean for them, particularly the ford news. >> for ford it's been steadily adding back workers. many of the plants are close to three shifts and close to capacity. what you'll see is the auto industry being selective about what plants did they close down that they want to reopen, or do they build new plants in a more judicious manner than the past. they were opening and closing plants so quickly there were thousands of people losing jobs. we'll see hiring, ...