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Government and every board room at corporationses in america. >> wait a second, do i have to start watching what's out there thinking this could happen to us? you call this hack attack a watershed moment and an example that the cold war was replaced by the cyber war. this is a new threat. what do you mean snm this is the new way countries will go at each other. they will go at each other either through grids. they will go through important services or take down companies. take down a sufficient number of companieses and you will impact the economy negatively. the problem in this case is ony wa...

Result. joining us goldie taylor. raul, what is your reaction to people reacting to the race and saying immigration reform is dead? >> i don't see the results today as a referendum per se on the future of eric cantor's position on immigration reform and on the future of immigration reform. i see it as more of a referendum on his inaction on immigration reform. because you have to remember that he was not a real friend of the immigration reform movement to begin with. >> no. >> as you just said, compared to a few years ago when he supported the dream act, he walked away from that. >> he support...

8:00 p.m. tonight. and already, politicos from across the spectrum are declaring immigration reform dead as a result. what's your reaction to people reacting to this race and saying immigration reform is dead? >> i don't see the results of the election tonight as a referendum per say on the future on eric cantor's immigration reform and on the future of immigration reform. i see it as more of a referendum on his inaction on immigration reform. you have to remember that he was not a real friend of the immigration reform movement to begin with. as you just said, compared to a few years ago, when...

Others as the beginning of a war. it was after all, from the point of view of militias and other extremists in the united states, a victory. they faced down plm and s.w.a.t. teams in las vegas. they're 60 miles away. the blm backed off. cliven bundy's horses were released. and very much a victory. i don't know the details it's unfolding quickly. but it looks this couple may have taken that as a signal as indeed, reportedly as they said, a revolution has begun. >> that is frightening to hear you use the word "war." everything that we covered and everybody covered with cliven bundy would serve a...

Describing off the bat the people who killed four americans as terrorists. they were reacting against a horrifying youtube video. he gave them the benefit of the doubt. >> he is inflaming what is already a very tense situation. officials are standing down for now. >> the blm backed off. >> for now the operative words there. >> right. so you are comparing these people to the people here in the united states that perpetrated the boston bombings, that killed americans. killed americans. did he sousa was out there on the screen and he describes the people there. he didn't see domestic terrorism. l...