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Shouldn't republicans just drop that provision and put out the stuff that they know can pass? >> they should, politically. because otherwise they risk looking cynical here. because this fix nix bill which goes to the background check thing has widespread report among republicans and democrats. it would sail through the house and sail through the senate and by attaching this other provision, which democrats in the senate are likely to kill, you put at risk the background check bill. the other way they can do it is put both of them on the floor separately, send them to the senate and let the sen...

Background checks. he talked about mental health issues and the one thing he didn't talk about is something he's been saying the last couple of days is raising the age to buy a long gun to equal that of buying a handgun. you had to be 21 to buy a handgun. you can buy a long gun like the ar-15 at 18. a lot of talk about raising that to 21. the n.r.a. doesn't like it but the president has specifically said in the last couple of days that he does like the idea. but he said nothing about it out of this hour and 14 minutes speech. >> bret: jason? >> i think he has a good point about the gun-free zo...

Push off legislation with two answers, one is, well, it wouldn't have stopped this one. or the second is, but that infringes upon my rights. >> first of all on the it wouldn't stop this one it's often hard to find one single thing that would stop a specific incident. sometimes the background check thing would work. often, you know, if we look around the country in states that have stronger background check laws, there is, without a doubt, there is a lot less gun violence. and states with weaker laws have more gun violence. these laws do matter. i would agree with the argument that it's often d...

Picked republicans and democrats. 42% plurality and this is not a majority, but that sort of -- talk about a counter and the whole background check thing that has been used as a bludgeon on some of these folks, this is never as cut and dry of an issue as i think some in the political community want it to be. >> that's right. that is a surprising finding. and but what that -- kelly ayotte ad tells you, the ad by the nra tells you, she must be pretty -- if joe manchin could tweak the expanded background gun check bill to give her a little cover to change her vote on that, it sounds like she migh...

Stretch at all. it's dead matter. i don't think there is anybody any more who has any hope for anything passing this congress this year that is beyond the background check thing and background checks itself is in peril and i think, you know, people -- there was a lot of emotion around newtown and we talked about this a lot on the show the last three months. a lot of emotion around it. there's a lot of public opinion in favor of the background check thing but always this problem of translating broad public support for these measures into legislation on capitol hill. it's the history of gun cont...