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May line a malign and despicable secrets. >> it may extend beyond rob porter? >> that's exactly it. asking for the ig, inspector general investigation, both reported to have embarrassing and potentially very dangerous and damaging conflicts of interest. that's the reason that we ask for this investigation about the sdurt clearan security clearance process. the white house can expedite a background clearance that was not competed on rob porter. it can expedite a security clearance. also not completed and the white house knew in november there could be no security clearance for rob porter and st...

Ti tive, highly classified information. this would not be an issue unless there was an issue for national security but to margaret's point, this is clearly an issue of national security because the background clearance are not just about whether you're a citizen with good character. they are whether you have risks in your background could open you up to risk of blackmail. this could be one of those things. very relevant to his security clearance and now we know why that security clearance was held up. >> to be clear, that means someone in the white house likely had to review the information fr...

Were jared kushner in the white house right now? >> it's a difficult time for anyone in the white house or in this administration who has had problems with filling out forms with information and background clearance forms or in testimony. mueller's team has demonstrated with this first wave of indictments that they are serious about enforcing laws against lying to the fbi. so kushner has had this problem where he had to resubmit his security clearance forms over and over because of failure to disclose foreign meetings and foreign contacts. that certainly has to be of concern to him. weave hear...

>> would you be nervous, joyce, as jared kushner in the white house right now? >> i think it's a difficult time for anyone in the white house or really in this administration who has had problems with filling out forms, with information and background clearance forms or in testimony. mueller's team has demonstrated with this first wave they of indictments they're serious about lying to the fbi. kushner has a problem where he had to resubmit his security clearance forms over and over because of failure to disclose foreign metings and foreign contacts. and that's certainly has to be of concern t...

Oversight? >> well, you know, one of the things about security clearances is the more powerful you are in the government, the less likely the officials are to give you a problem on security clearance. it is not an equitable system. but what is so troubling about this whole issue of omitting these visits is that the whole purpose of disclosing the names of the foreign nationals you've met with is so that the background clearance folks can investigate these meetings. and look at what the circumstances were. so this is not just some technic technicality. this is something that is actually crucial...