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Government-ladd, 22 million files. a lot of the sf 86 files that you use for background clearances, they have mine, i was informed by the government, very sensitive information, as you know, that they could use against intelligence operatives and military members. and the senator asked the question, did we retaliate? what did we do? the answer that i heard from all of you was, well we try to protect people like me, and i'm sure others, whose sensitive intel information and background information was compromised. but i didn't hear any claim of a retaliation on a huge hack. huge. 22 million amer...

Either john kelly rules the day and his edict, his new policies for background clearances apply to the president's son-in-law jared kushner, and he loses his interim status, or jared kushner wins and i don't know how john kelly stays in that job with any authority. >> well, look, you're absolutely right about the tension here. the white house put out a statement yesterday night and said kelly has the utmost confidence in jared kushner and that none of these changes should have any effect on his ability to do the his job. they're cagey about what the status his clearances are, what level he's a...