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Life and global life at a deep level, right? am i wrong or overstating it? >> how is that not an interesting topic? the whole conversation is surreal to me. the problem is once you're writing about, say, new forms of energy you're not technically writing about climate change and it doesn't show up on the surveys. what you're writing about getting more kids to walk to school. the distance between that and climate change is quite vast but like you say, it's sort of climate change is the background condition against which a lot of interesting stories play out but they don't necessarily come off a...

Concentration of income and wealth, well, what happens to them? they're told they can't. they're clubbed. they're pulled out of wherever they are. their tents are taken down. they are subjected to pepper spray. i mean, what's going on? this is exactly the opposite of what a democracy is supposed to be. >> it's also embarrassing for the country, in my opinion, and the students -- >> of course. >> the students are out there with a legitimate concern about rising tuition, but then this kind of stuff just fuels more protests and brings everybody's temperature up. how is berkeley handling it right ...