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Military bases across the country. we are not ruling out terrorism at this time. once again a very tragic incidents at ft. hood, 14 people at least right now reported wounded and four confirmed dead at this point in time. >> all right. so you're saying four confirmed dead which is the first, chairman, that we have heard that. you're saying you're sure of that from the briefing you've gotten. >> yes. this is from multiple agencies, including state and federal agencies. >> and that obviously brings the total to 18. you're saying the 14 wounded. do the four dead i guess let me just confirm with y...

>> there really isn't. it's very difficult to tell, you know, what is any common household product. you mentioned chairs. when you walk on the beaches of oceans in the gyres it looks like a department store washed ashore. they sit in these gyres for years if not decades. to distinguish a seat cushion, for example or something from a luggage from the background material is very difficult. >> thank you, marcus, appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> i want to get my experts reaction right now. those were just the small items. there is a lot of ocean junk in this part of the ocean. how challenging doe...

Activity consists of work in preparation for lobbying or work as background material that is intended to help lobbying. so i think again, the fact that he was reporting to a freddie mac lobbyist does raise the further questions what he was actually doing. >> michael isikoff, thank you for helping us explain this. complicate bd but i feel more clear. thank you. >> $1.6 to $1.8 to report to the lobbyist at the organization. how close to lobbying is that? alan grayson of florida who admitted is the florida politician you want to hear from. big unexpected news out of washington state, out of i...

The organization? >> funny you should ask. yes,we can. the contract the first pain shows he was reporting to the director of public policy for freddie mac a man by the name of craig thomas, who in fact was one of freddie mac's top lobbyists. so the consulting work that newt gingrich was doing was for the freddie mac top lobbyist, but gingrich insists it did not consist of lobbying. the lobbying disclosure law and how it defines lobbying activities, it does say lobbying activity consists of work in preparation for lobbying or work as background material that is intended to help lobbying. so i t...

There is a conservative contract here is he was not a lobbyist. is there anything we can tell, like who he was reporting to at freddie mac who could explain how he was functioning at their organization? >> funny you should ask. yes, we can. the contract, the first page, shows he was reporting to the director of public policy for freddie mac, a man by the name of craig thomas, who, in fact, was one of freddie mac's top lobbyists. so the consulting work that newt gingrich was doing was for the freddie mac top lobbyist, but gingrich insists it did not consist of lobbying. actually, if you read cl...