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Mainstream media. >> furthermore, jeff, sources are telling cnn, quoting now, that shine's effectiveness in the west wing came with mixed results. it was unclear hutch he was able to change the white house's communications strategy. that was the expectation of the president. i mean, to change things or to do things differently. >> good question. i think he did come in with high expectations, having been at fox, having a background working with the media, to the extent he did. again, it is the trump white house. he was new. he is well respected by staff. he got along well with others in the com...

Will be out as of january 1st, replaced by a deputy. let's go right now to white house correspondent from the daily mail, white house reporter for "the wall street journal," washington correspondent for "the new york times." vivian, i want to go to you first. based on your background working in iraq, all of this having surrounded the james mattis earlier than expected departure, the fact that you were there in iraq during the rise and fall of isis, you have seen how this works firsthand. you have been reporting on mattis for a few years. what do you make of this updated departure? >> it is int...

Best for the president? number one, what's best for the president is to not have people with this background working in the white house. number two, how can you have a staff secretary who can't get a security clearance when they handle the most sensitive documents, all the documents? number three, at the end of the day you're there to serve the country and the president. if this is going to hurt the president and his agenda, you have to act on it at that point. so right now, there's no defense of this. you can't defend it. you have to let it go and move on. frankly they're going to have to adm...

Porter resigned today. scott jennings and alice stewart join me. he denies the allegations, he says these allegations are simply false, i took the photos 15 years ago. the reality behind them is nowhere close to what is being described. i have been transparent and truthful about these vile claims. i will not engage with a smear campaign. so he's calling it a smear campaign. scott, respond to that, do you think it's a smear campaign? >> frankly i don't understand the strategy of defending someone who's already decided to resign. rob porter has a version of the story, the ex-wives have a version...

Anybody else and they can tell when they're being bs'd and they're trying to figure out by talking to multiple sources a story that adds up or doesn't add up. so the report for brad bell from washington, the abc affiliate, he mentioned multiple sources said he's a serious reporter who has a background working in baltimore. i don't think he's guy that just scribbled down some notes from some cop. so i'm a little more believing of this. but i understand why other people are not. joy? >> reporter: well, chris, i'll tell you, now that we've done unfortunately so many stories like this, the way thi...