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It's really hard for sanders to make a big impact. >> barry, just explain for the view thors. because that argument has been made over and over again. that not having a lot of debates favors hillary clinton. explain for the viewers why having fewer debates and why hiding the debates at, you know, low viewership times would favor hillary clinton. >> first of all, these debates, you're talking about 25 million people have watched some of the biggest republican debates. i don't have the numbers from the last one, but the last one was on a saturday and it had a much, much smaller audience. a lot o...

Democrat. is there a perception the dnc is not neutral? >> if you listen, when you ask the vice chair, is wasserman schultz neutral, he kind of ducked the question. you have the voice chairs themselves have been very concerned about wasserman schultz, she's for hillary. the big thing is the candidates had five debates. lots of hype, lots of attention. the democrats are now having their third debate. so two less. and the second one on a saturday. it sure seems like there's an effort here intentional or unintentional to make sure people don't watch the debates as much as the democratic side. and...

Isis. >> let's step back and to a little history here. this is one of the things i think is absent in the united states. we have a bad case of amnesia. we invaded iraq in 2003. we had a combat force. a massive combat force of 125,000 men, which cut through all resistance within three weeks like a sythe, all right. now, i fought every war in the middle east and let me tell you something, that was an overwhelming piece of force. however, we occupied that country for eight years. we took 4,686 dead soldiers. there's a number no one remembers. people fought and they died for this operation. and it...

Beings. they are. they're horrible. you would not have dinner with them. i tell you. this gentleman here who's a great vet. you wouldn't want anything. i want them representing. do you agree with that? would you rather have a nice person like carolyn kennedy, right? she's representing us in japan. she knows nothing. she admits she knows nothing. we are going to have the toughest, the smartest. we're going to have people that are so good. we're going to have the greatest negotiators -- i know them all. i know the good ones, bad one, overrated ones. i know the ones that will do a good job and ke...

Way is being right through past our border patrols who are tremendous people they can do the job but they're told not to. >> are you going to bring the snaerm. >> no, we'll do in the a humane fashion, believe me. the one thing we're going to do. >> the one thing we're going to start with immediately are the gangs and the real bad ones and you agree there are some bad ones. do you agree with that or is do you think everyone is just perfect? do you agree with that that we have tremendous crime, we have tremendous problems? is i can't deal with this. listen, we have tremendous crime. we have very...