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Destruction of records, all these things were verified in the inspector general's report. once that came out within the hour had you people calling for resignation are those calls got louder and more frequent as the days went on that. was really the last straw for most people. once they said look we got a look at this report, it's all true. it's not just something we are reading in the press i think his time was up at that point. >> jackie, there is the crisis of what qui are doing to our vets. that's one thing. this is town where politics is reigning supreme. is either side going to use this ...

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And so i think that that makes him very vulnerable. >> there is a little bit of a difference here. >> sure, there is a difference. there is a difference. >> you can rebut it. the veterans administration they run the hospitals, they hire the doctors. they are the ones that do the hands on care, okay? and obviously, doctors have come forward who work for the v.a. and say it isn't working, this is screwed up. so you are absolutely right there. 100% right, okay? i don't know if that's every v.a. hospital. but certainly there is 26 states now being investigated. obamacare isn't that. they run the i...

And so i think that that makes him very vulnerable. >> there is a little bit of a difference here. >> sure, there is a difference. there is a difference. >> you can rebut it. the veterans administration they run the hospitals, they hire the doctors. they are the ones that do the hands on care, okay? and obviously, doctors have come forward who work for the v.a. and say it isn't working, this is screwed up. so you are absolutely right there. 100% right, okay? i don't know if that's every v.a. hospital. but certainly there is 26 states now being investigated. obamacare isn't that. they run the i...

Unclear. it doesn't seem to matter much to those more interested in scoring political points. how else to explain the knee jerk calls mainly by republicans in the house and the senate for the ouster of veterans affairs secretary eric shinseki, it's important that the current problems be addressed but they also ought to be kept in context and veterans not made as the president put it into another political football, unquote. that is misguided in the extreme and the "the washington post" editorial board should know it there are allegations that the veterans died in phoenix because of bad v.a. po...