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>> this war is ill-advised, unwarranted at this point. we are involved in a local, civil, and regional war, where vital u.s. interests are not at stake. and at the end of the day, no matter how much we accomplish, six months a year later, you will not see massive traces of everything the united states sought to bring about. this is truly misguided, it should be wound down, not completely eliminated, be uh we should wind down our involvement there at a far faster rate than we are. >> i can make an argument that keeping troops in iraq would be far more in the united states interest than keeping ...

Weakening iraq, by creating an iraq that was divided by sects, you created a situation where iran was going to be the dominant country in that part of the world. this potentially exacerbates it. because, again, you probably should've -- not probably, you should have an american presence if you could. but the answer is you probably couldn't because the iraqis resisted the politics, the coalition. weapon wouldn't accept an situation where american soldiers were subject to iraqi law. the jury's out on that, certain people think yes, certain people think no. but the bottom line is the war itself s...

Farewell speech, you need your heads examined. we're not going to repeat the experiments. >> let's go to afghanistan, where hamid karzai responded to a question about a hypothetical conflict between pakistan and the united states. speaking with a private television station karzai said quote, this. if fighting starts between pakistan and the u.s., we are beside pakistan. >> wow. isn't that -- wait. hold on a second. hold on. wait, wait, wait -- isn't this the guy that the foreign policy leaders come on the show here say we're fighting and dying and we need to stay another decade for that guy? >...

>> secretary clinton also reiterated america's interest in making sure democracy in iraq continues to flourish. a small number of marines is expected to remain at the u.s. embassy in iraq. and some say there'll be bases throughout the country, soft power. >> right. >> helping develop other parts of the country. >> you know, richard, you look at john mccain's response. i thought it was thoughtful. he obviously was critical of this administration. but at least thoughtful. and yes, we have to be concerned about iranian influence in iraq. then you look at lindsay graham talking, you know, he fumbl...