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Axios, jonathan swan is here, and former democratic congresswoman donna edwards, now a contributing columnist for "the washington post" joins us. mike schmidt, let's start with you, i believe you have the fist reporting and some of it may have been cited in this indictment today about communications between roger stone and the campaign. talk about how today's indictment furthers our understanding of what those communications and contacts look like? >> the interesting thing about the indictment is we knew a lot of what was in there. this is about discussions that the campaign had with stone. st...

Congressional campaigns, there are layers of staff between what happens on a day-to-day basis and the candidate and the trump campaign was completely the opposite of that. not even just of presidential campaigns. and this is where trump gets into trouble, because there's no way he can continue to distance himself from the decisions that were made with respect to whatever went on with russia. >> it's a good point about how the campaign ran. you think about how he micro managed every utterance. if he didn't like a surrogate, they were off today. i worked on three presidential campaigns, i'm not ...

Senior trump officials and maybe the candidate himself. >> one of the weird things that hand to the gop in 2016, there were a lot of weefrd things but one of the weirdest things was to see julian assange booked regularly on fox news. to see people like shawn hannity, who followed pre-trump normal god traditions of being tougher on russia, to see in this indictment today how completely knitted up julian assange's wikileaks was with the gop nominee's candidacy was remarkable. is there any one of the republican party thatp does the have amnesia, that can point to how bizarre it is to see a republ...

The incidents, pla the flash po you cited a couple weeks ago, his wikileaks might be viewed with the same skepticism? >> it was the statements on the campaign trail that first caught the fbi's attention. the fbi knew russia was trying to meddle in the election. they knew there had been outreach. they were looking at certain members of the campaign. and here you have the president, who was embracing a foreign policy position that was in complete opposite of where his party traditionally stood. and they didn't understand that. and what happens is that builds and builds and builds until he become...

As everyone knows, i have a very powerful alternative, but i didn't want to use it at this time. >> the bill to officially reopen the government at least temporarily could hit the president's desk any time now. we will bring you any updates as soon as we get them. but we start with the big news out of the mueller investigation today. donald trump's longest serving political adviser, roger stone, charged with seven counts, including obstruction of justice, making false statements to congress and the fbi and witness tampering. stone was arrested in his ft. lauderdale home and later released on b...