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Palestinian men and two palestinian women hijacked a blaineplane they landed it in tel aviv, they will blow up plane unless israel released imprisoned terrorists to fly them to a country of their choice. we drove to the airport. unit was already punctured the tires, and the defense minister was negotiates and made it appear we were willing to give them what they wanted. then, in the meantime, we prepared plane for take off, they took 16 of our soldiers, including me, to dress up as mechanics we came to in a baggage train we would fix the plane, when we got into position, before -- next totte t...

Crazy. then i said, maybe we'll try it again. the place went crazy. and now i like it. >> there you have it right there. during the campaign donald trump pitched himself as the outsider who would drain the swamp in washington d.c., but as president he created an entirely new environment. that environment laid out in a fascinating new piece in the "new york magazine." he joins me now. a former white house cabinet secretary chris lu. it is a great piece, nick. i guess the question is what surprised you and what's changed about this era of influence peddling in washington? >> what was so new to m...

>> there you have it right there. during the campaign donald trump pitched himself as the outsider who would drain the swamp in washington d.c., but as president he created an entirely new environment. that environment laid out in a fascinating new piece in the "new york magazine." he joins me now. a former white house cabinet secretary chris lu. it is a great piece, nick. i guess the question is what surprised you and what's changed about this era of influence peddling in washington? >> what was so new to me was trump in fact, despite the fact he has hired 100 lobbyists to his different agenc...