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Argument that an isis snuff film is newsworthy. >> again, it's a balancing process, to see someone from isis to cut their throat off for the 100th time has little news value. it has a little bit. it's a balancing process. whereas the way in which john pedesta are planning to disseminate a public message and then private i something else, it's always this process of tradeoffs. >> it's great to talk to you, we are not going to end up in a situation, we're going to be navigating this for a long time to come because we have now got a situation, we have seen it in turkey and other countries, that...

Privacy, some of that stuff should not have been published. but of course the more powerful you are, the more transparency you deserve. >> if this accelerates, this is now a play book, to me the sony hack was really a turninging point. like sony executives are powerful. but it was clearly done with this goal that actually ended up working. is there an analogy with the way that the media has been propagating isis? there is news, they have murdered this person in a horrible way. at first it was like we're not going to be complicit in this essentially awful act that they want us to publish these ...

Isis to cut their throat off for the 100th time has little news value. it has a little bit. it's a balancing process. whereas the way in which john pedesta are planning to disseminate a public message and then private i something else, it's always this process of tradeoffs. >> it's great to talk to you, we are not going to end up in a situation, we're going to be navigating this for a long time to come because we have now got a situation, we have seen it in turkey and other countries, that this is now a playbook, and it's been a playbook in other places, it's going to be increasingly a play ...