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Trump himself rather than ideology. but to the extent trump does have an ideology, i think it's safe to say it's bannonism. but at the same time he can also pea led in other directions. and you saw that for example with the early release of the national security strategy this week, which was in many ways kind of a conventional internationalists document, even though it's completely at odds with trump's own. he's all over the map. but i think to the extent he has any core beyond donald trump himself, which i think is the real core, but beyond that i think his core is kblas tbasica kind of belie...

Though it's completely at odds with trump's own. he's all over the map. but i think to the extent he has any core beyond donald trump himself, which i think is the real core, but beyond that i think his core is basically the kind of believes bannon represents. >> can you imagine bannon breaking with him next year? >> absolutely. he's a parasite. and he'd been looking for so long for a vehicle to attach himself to, attach his wagon to. people don't remember this but bannon was a cheerleader for sarah palin. when that didn't pan out he moved over to rand paul, even ben carson. when someone's rid...

Thing, don, which is mcconnell. and, you know, trump ran as an anti-establishment candidate. mcconnell is the ultimate establishment man, as mark pointed out, he needs mcconnell to some degree. but he loves having steve bannon out there strutting around in his johnny cash outfit threatening to gun everyone down and calling mcconnell cesar and calling for brutases to step up and do away with him and so on. he knows that he's got a gun cocked at mcconnell, figuratively speaking. in this day and age i shouldn't use that language. but he's got this implicit threat that bannon represents. so if i'm...

Anti-establishment candidate. mccanal is the ultimate establishment man, as mark pointed out, he needs mcconnell to some degree. but he loves having steve bannon out there strutting around in his johnny cash outfit threatening to gun everyone down and calling mcconnell sees ar and calling for brute i says to step up and do away with him and so on. he knows that he's got a gun cocked at mcconnell, figure ra actively speaking. in this day and age i shouldn't use that language. but he's got this implicit threat that bannon represents. so if i'm mcconnell i'm standing up there feeling deeply uncom...

Daughter and son-in-law. he was fired august 28th. that day bannon said he was heading back to breitbart and told "the weekly standard" the trump presidency that we fought for and won is over. we'll make something of this trump presidency. how does a guy who is the ultimate nationalist go to "the weekly standard" which is globalist and say this is my departure speech. i just thought the whole thing -- why going to the enemy press to make good-bye remarks? >> he was sitting in the white house and know he had been left behind and he felt the need to reach out and push his narrative. >> he got a ...