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What the defense counsel said, but it is not an overt lie, she's not telling authorities one thing, if she did, it is not a crime to lie to the media. lawyers do it all of the time and especially politicians so she won't be brought up on any charges or a bar complaint, just being a good lawyer for her clients. >> there have been some legal analysts what say this case is tough to prove against the parents. this is something that we've not seen before. do you agree with that? >> well, victor, it is an unprecedented case because we've never seen this before because we've never had facts like this...

County d.a. already reports she's cooperating with the committee investigating trump for solicitation of election fraud in georgia. >> a little bit of color. do you believe that the four lawyers that are reported to have turned down trump did it because he doesn't pay or is that a reflection of that people don't want to get involved with this kind of soup? >> well, it's the worst of all possible worlds representing trump, chris. you don't get paid. your reputation gets dragged through the mud. you yourself might get meshed in his potential liability, civil or criminal. that's what happened to ...

Fairly good claim of executive privilege. it doesn't matter what trump said before, he will take it back. but clark has a lot more pressure on him than these other guys. he first of all, is being pillar now from all corners, he lost his job in the last couple of days. rosen testified for ten hours, and you can bet he absolutely crucified him, same with donahue, the acting deputy attorney general. everything will be pinned on him. he's not what he has potential liability for violating doj rules, as you said. there is an inspector general investigation, barr rules. there's a bar complaint, he co...

Because he doesn't pay or is that a reflection of that people don't want to get involved with this kind of soup? >> well, it's the worst of all possible worlds representing trump, chris. you don't get paid. your reputation gets dragged through the mud. you yourself might get meshed in his potential liability, civil or criminal. that's what happened to mr. clark. now, i was one of a group of ethics experts who filed a bar complaint. it is a mess for your career, your wallet and your reputation if you represent the guy. no go. >> norm eisen, you're always full go. good to have you. thank you aga...

Came together in this states united democracy center that organized and filed this bar complaint against eastman and all across the country. we're working to shore up by pushing back on sham audits, by litigating against these terrible voter hijack bills that are in the states, jim. our states united democracy center working together, co-chairs, republican governor christie todd whitman, these are not partisan issues. our democracy is under assault because our elections are under assault. and starting with the eastman complaint and much, much more we're doing something about it. >> richard pai...