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Feel emboldened? what is their best shot given these four questions? >> that's what i meant by the nail biting world. they could retreat to a bar somewhere and try to make the most of both and try to spin it in either direction. they are taking reasonable doubt oo seriously. basically, i think all these questions are going to be, you can drive yourself crazy trying to figure out which way they cut. to me, it is more consistent with a jury working through and doing what they are supposed to do toward what i think will be

That the manafort team should feel emboldened? what is their best shot given these four questions? >> that's what i meant by the nail biting world. they could retreat to a bar somewhere and try to make the most of both and try to spin it in either direction. they are taking reasonable doubt seriously. basically, i think all these questions are going to be, you can drive yourself crazy trying to figure out which way they cut. to me, it is more consistent with a jury working through and doing what they are supposed to do toward what i think will be an eventual conviction. just like pretty much

There is information like in the background. imagine somebody going to him in a bar somewhere and saying listen if you don't do x or y we're letting this information out. that's why you have to be so careful about this. and the fact that the chief -- the white house chief of staff knew about this and, a, didn't act on it and actually hired him without the clearance was the first mistake. and you know should have been taken care of then. shouldn't have been in the white house. >> tonight a retired general who served with john kelly says he no longer feels he knows the chief of staff anymore in ...

>> josh, from the "washington post", thank you so much. i appreciate it. do we have rob porter's statement that we can put up? because you know, he says this is outrageous allegations, saying they are fls false. also calling it a coordinated smear campaign. just go ahead and put that up because i think it's important to put up what he is saying about this. as we do that let's go back to mark mckinnon. what does this say about how the white house is vetting people. >> that's the bigger problem, don. the white house has to have not just high standards but the highest standards. this isn't a denn...

>> go ahead adriana. finish the point first. >> andrew mccabe, second in command of the fbi said without the dossier, the essential piece of evidence that they went to the fisa court to spy on trump associates. they weren't relying on papadopoulos who by the way, he was drunk and talking smack at a bar somewhere. the fbi really going to use that garbage type of intelligence to spy on a major presidential candidate? you have got to be kidding me! >> if adriana is right, and mccabe testimony is confirmed, say via recording or transcript or whatever that he did indeed, say that. and it was the do...