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His friends on tv are not crazy. he'll be asked, did you fire -- if he answers him, i fired him because he quit my golf club. nobody is going to believe he was fired because he quit his golf club. so he has a problem when he goes in that room. >> so what does this do to the president's calculation the lawyer is going to make a certain set of recommendations, but we all know donald trump is going to make a decision possibly on his lawyer's advice, possibly his friends on tv's advice, we don't know. he's going to make the decision. he now knows he's going to be interviewed by a special prosecuto...

Interviewed by a special prosecutor who knows the president tried to fire him. will he submit to that interview? >> i don't think so. i don't think he'll do it soon, and that's because the main thing he fears is mueller's bare minimum. mueller's bare minimum here is some kind of live testimony about the obstruction where there is criminal sanction for lying, either perjury or 1001, the thing that tripped up flynn. that's the thing that trump can't afford to do. i don't think it will happen soon. i think he'll try to do some trick or legal challenge to the subpoena. >> let me get david on this....

Provision, that skinny legislation that ryan was talking about because that's apparently one of the last great hopes that the republicans have. >> yeah, it's not the latest diet fad. that is for sure. it is exactly legislatively what you would think, which is the most basic limited kind of replacing plan that they think that they could get through there. you see right on the screen the individual and employer mandate. they would get rid of that. a tax on medical device makers which has never been popular, certainly with republicans, but even several democrats who are from states that manufactu...

Enough came around and they passed it. 218. that's the bare minimum. 2003. republicans, the medicare prescription drug vote. george bush's presidency. this bill seemed like it failed on the floor. 218 no votes. what did republican leaders do in the house? they held the vote open. supposed to be 15 minutes. three hours. held it open in the middle of the night for three hours. cut deals, twisted arms. turned 218 no votes into 220 yes votes and passed it when it looked like they had lost. there are examples where party leaders can gut this out. there is a famous example where a president just did...