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Are a blatant attempt to use human beings as bargaining leverage, a practice condemned by the global community and inconsistent with china's international human rights commitments. we stand shoulder to shoulder with canada in calling for the immediate and unconditional release of both michael kovrig and michael spavor. as for the fate of michael cough veh kovrig, no word yet on when his sentencing might be. but in china, courts have a sq conviction rate of over 99%. >> what is the likelihood that either of these two men will return home? >> reporter: at this moment, we don't tknow. legal exper...

Of hours. i think it's really the implement aation that has generated all these negative outcomeses, the criticism, the deaths, the accusations against the u.s. when, again, a good idea could have turned out better, had it been more properly executed. eric: you think erdogan would have offered any concessions when he wanted to put the 20-mile buffer in there and wanted to get the kurds out. >> yeah, he wantsdz wants the kurds out. he can't get them unless the u.s. moves. that gives the u.s. leverage, to put us in a position to say you want us out, okay, fine, but x, y and z for us. similarly w...

More pain to the iranians. i'm not sure it's going to bend them or break them or bring them back to the table. what has happened is that the iranians have taken the measure of the president and found him wanting. in other words, when he starts tweeting, he has a big bark and then when they call his bark or bluff, he goes back to the table and says let's see if we can't work this out and make peace. >> neil: he's also tweeted and said, as you know, secretary, that, you know, if he wanted to response, you know, the way that many want him to by just killing a lot of people, it's not him. that wou...

Point, the government of the united states is going to partially shut down because we have a president of the united states who has a personal ideological commitment to a border wall, and he's unable or unwilling to use that as traditional bargaining leverage to get some kind of a traditional immigration deal. this is driving the rest of the system into the ditch. and so, when we talk about the presidency, when we talk about the nature of political power in the country, we always have to go back to the character of the person we send to the pinnacle of power. and this is another exhibit of how...

The situation between libya and north korea are so completely different. libya had a very small underdeveloped nuclear program, it was completely isolated in the region under tremendous pressure. north korea has a very advanced nuclear program, with probably several dozen nuclear weapons and missiles, and it is not isolated in the region. it is now developed better relations with south korea, restored relations to some extent with china, so our bargaining leverage with north korea is simply not strong enough, i believe, to be able to compel them to accept the libya model. but nonetheless, i th...