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For mass shootings. >> that's true. so that makes me wonder if this is some group if they've been putting out literature or e-mails or other social media of their disgust with either the county or this organization. have there been threats on the organization as ron mentioned? that type of investigation. but this is going to be more of an intelligence driven investigation than the tactical operation they expected when they arrived at the scene. and that intelligence is going to include are there people out there that have been expressing some type of a threatening comments about either this or...

Within the country that you're going to actually commit the offense, then it's easier to obviously hide that stuff. i think it was great on the part of the fireworks person to call immediately afterwards once he recognized he sold those detonators to this individual, but to transport them across borders or across lines is a lot more difficult than just purchase them in the country where you're going to commit the criminal act. >> that helps underscores to release the image or his name so that shop owner could recognize that person and say, wait a minute, i remember selling those detonators to ...

Abdelsalam has caused raids all over brussels. the two men who are said to have driven him from paris to brussels are being questioned by police. we know that along with searching for abdelsalam meese are also looking for mohammed abrini who was seen with abdel is lam just two days before the attacks. fred? >> alexandra field, thank you so much, in brussels. we want to bring back art roderick. what is most significant to you? >> what's most significant to me is that they've picked up individuals that transported him which i do agree with the representative it sounds like they're getting very c...

Once the arrest has been made, okay, now they have to clear that building and get further intelligence from the individuals that were in there or possibly being held hostage to find out where he went in that building. >> art roderick, jonathan gillian, stay with me. when we come back, we'll talk to someone who has been on lockdown in colorado springs for the last five hours. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn.

Art roderick is with me as well. to know that they were able to shot to him and locate him because of the cameras and communicate with one another and get him to surrender after five hours of this. >> right. >> you know, there's something that tells me that there was an agenda with this individual and that's why they were able to reason this with individual. i try not to criticize when things are still active but the police chief that came on there, part of their duty is to inform the public that we have this individual in custody but we don't know the full spectrum of this investigation yet. ...