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I mean don't people vote on jobs? don't people vote on low inflation and peace and prosperity? isn't that like a good thing if you are president? >> but he's clearly banking on his base not. >> i thought it was. >> he's clearly banking on his base being riled up by something else, otherwise he wouldn't do it. he wouldn't do it if it wasn't in his self-interest. >> but he didn't invent this either. he didn't invent this tactic. in 2014, i believe, there were republicans saying that immigrants were going to come across the border carrying e bowl aebola, for goodness sake. he didn't create this. ...

And you follow through with it as an elected official, that's the model we're supposed to do. >> the question is whether or not he thinks president trump is a good role model for the children of florida. >> that's what i thought originally. i got confused. so no, he's not. donald trump is -- donald trump is weak. >> he can say donald trump is weak and people who are in his party could go on and on and on about the problems for donald trump. the point of fact is, we talked for a long time about his base being in the 30s. his approval rating is now up into -- well into the 40s. he's where presid...

Were separated from their parents by this ridiculous policy her husband implemented. that is what i care about. i have no interest in talking about her exterior accessories. it is a waste of time discussing it and we should focus on figuring out how to get kids back to their parents. jillian: we agree on this? >> that we don't care? if it is not this democrats will find something else to be outraged about. we have seen many controversies, anytime i worry about the republican base being energized i look to the first lady being attacked and say republicans will turn out. heather: bit of an agree...

Right. but i don't know any politician on the face of the earth any president who has been listening to people who have kept him at 32 or 33% that wouldn't go, you know what, i think this is the right thing to do. i promised on the company i would take care of these people and, hey, 90% of americans are on my side. so, yeah, i'm fine with the base being pissed off this morning, because they can sit. 12% of them can get in a phone booth somewhere and hug in washington, d.c. >> well, there you go. i mean, a lot of people, joe, not only this morning but yesterday, last night, are really overthink...

Security adviser shortest tenure in 24 days mike flynn's financial dealings with the turkish government. that is really a significant development that they are actually getting documents from the white house and looking into specific wrongdoing. and this investigation is going to go on for a while, but it certainly seems like there is something there given the team that mueller has assembled. >> now, tara, the politics of this, clearly we don't know where the investigation will go, you can have long investigations that go nowhere, you can have long investigations that go somewhere. we'll see. ...