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Environment abruptly off limits and under the control of a hostile reseem. the counterterrorism posture went from problematic with the u.s. withdrawal to extraordinarily bad with the taliban in full control." according to one veteran intelligence officer who served as a cia base chief in afghanistan "suddenly one wonders if we will go entirely dark. it's like a bad dream." we start with some of our favorite reporters and trends. helene cooper, jonathan lemiere, and retired four-star general barry mccaffrey is here, lucky for us, all msnbc contributors. general mccaffrey, let me start off with ...

In terms of memorial day and our people in service because the united states is pulling out of afghanistan. and that is something that's been in the blood stream for two decades at this point. i'm wondering what your thoughts on are on that? >> this is something i feel passionate about. i served as a base chief in afghanistan for a year. i look at the afghan withdrawal and the total withdrawal in three different bins. first and foremost, i worry that afghanistan will turn into a failed state again, which means ungoverned spaces. that's a breeding ground for terrorism. the second is, of course,...

>> senator, my moral compass is strong. i would not allow cia to undertake activity that i thought was immoral, even if it was technically legal. i would absolutely not permit it. >> you would not follow order if you felt it was -- >> no. i believe that cia must undertake activities that are consistent with american values. >> haspel served as the base chief at a secret cia prison in thailand where a terror suspect was waerd boaterboarded in 2002. one of the committee members questioning haspel today is with us. even before the hearing started you said you were a no. why? >> well, i got a ch...

Of problems. >> joining me now is nbc's intelligence and national security reporter ken dilanian. ken, this is a tough one. we don't know how either side is breaking. she's got her hearing tomorrow. this striking thing is that the white house said until friday they did not know about these critical e-mails where she talked about her involvement and how could they not know. >> that's right. >> you knew, i knew, they were in the report. >> i mean, she was the base chief at a base where a detainee was water boarded. we don't know exactly how she felt about it but the reporting is she didn't have ...

Information. the thing we have been reporting that she was a base chief in thailand where a detainee was water boarded remains classified. she will not be able to answer questions about what she did there. sarah sanders was asked whether she be able to answer every question about her role in torture sn the answer was no. the ranking democratic on the intelligence committee sent out a letter where he is criticizing the cia for failing to declassify more information about her record and releasing anecdotes like the time she met with mother theresa in africa. they are not saying they are ruling h...